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listen to this dude!!! It's too late in the game for a revolution, unless a mental one! Where folks recognize the game, how it is played, their role in it and refuse to participate in it in any way that favors the robber barons! Au contraire reconnect with the humanity innate in them, and reach out to one another in building a world where everyone lives the minimum of human dignity. If one works hard then one gets to reap the benefits of his sweat, and if one is not as fortunate at least let society guarantee him, shelter, food and health care. Those boyz made sure to regulate who gets the weapons and who doesn't, and in so doing ensured that they are armed to the teeth and ready to kill to protect the status quo, so yeh.. a smart revolution would be welcome! That said, the dust bin of history is littered with bodies of would be revolutionaries, almost none of them dead of natural causes! So you know the beast is savage and cold blooded!

Ok hopin' that it will be non violent

Hey Saab, may you write shorter sentences ? That would allow people who wanted to learned english from this thread not to be afraid by paragraphs of dialog...

Like me

PaCpiS a écrit:Hey Saab, may you write shorter sentences ? That would allow people who wanted to learned english from this thread not to be afraid by paragraphs of dialog...

Could I write shorter sentences? Sure I could, I even will.. It just seemed to me that folks did not care much for this thread so I thought to use it as corner to vent frustrations.. But I got you broda!

Hey bro write it shorter only if people participate in this thread. U revived it as no one didn't really care, so who so ever want to do some follow-up gotta be participating, otherwise let the flow be!!
u r an AK47 and ur bullets are words, so bring up what u got dude!

Isn’t it Odd though?

I woke up feeling a little heavy headed today, perhaps I need to
really start going to bed earlier, or perhaps I just needed to respect my body
a little more, maybe a combination of the two. This coffee with milk and no sugar isn’t
helping either, further dehydrates me when I need water. It is like opening a
gash on your forearm to heal a small cut! Odd isn’t it? Then again odd is the
norm these days in our sweet old world. Women look, think and act manlier by
the day and dudes? Well let’s just say that the heterosexual women to heterosexual
man ratio must be closer to balance now than possibly at any other time in history.
By the way that last assertion was not as a result of some scientific poll I conducted
or anything so do not crucify me for it, rather it is just my observation of how
males seem to catch gayness like it is a common cold these days. Odd indeed…
Almost as odd as having officially sanctioned killers go from country to
country assassinating people in broad daylight and nothing seems to be done
about it. Isn’t that odd? I thought we had an International Justice Court for that! You
know that court that makes some presidents tremble so, oh well silly me I forgot
that these trembling presidents are not part of that elite pompous clique that
calls themselves “The International Community”… Duh!!! Here I go thinking again.
Much more to say but I won’t make this one too long so as the
Terminator would say, “I’ll be back”.. Sorry Pac

I think that you don't really understand what "shorter sentences" means

Lol, Saab, you can start writing a book for all your stories

Dang man! I really did try to summarize and barely hit my stride expressing what I had in mind that prompted the writing of that paragraph!! So much going on out there that I find to be of crucial importance but oh well... I will try harder next time but it is not a promise

Irakian, you can continue puting your crypted (if you need) diary on Senediaspora like me end maybe one day you'll collect all of this shits for constituting a life-book... !

thiam you're dumb kahkahkahkahkah

The girls are going to hate me for this but... just a little something I wrote to dedicate to M Daddy






The Masculinist





What? Not an English word? Well it is not a typo either,


That is what I am! Hurry up woman, make me dinner!


Just WHO am I? I am it! The one and only! The “HE” man


The Alpha dog, antithesis to Feminist like halal is to ham


Spare me the feelings talk! Please save it for your friends!


You exist to satisfy me only! Don’t you ever forget it


Romance is overrated, so please don’t waste your time


Keep quiet, cook and give me sex and I’ll be just fine


Speak to me with words, I will not try to figure you out


Body language won’t do, neither will hysterical shouts


Because those futile mental exercises I can do without


Of course I know that you fake orgasms, baby I don’t mind!


I fake relationships altogether, so try harder next time.


I am every woman’s dream come true, yes you may kiss the
fist


And no, the name is not chauvinist pig! It’s Masculinist.

I didn't know you were such a dumb!

.. come on now! It is just a parody, I know you saw the disclaimer I opened with!

Actually people often hide what they think behind parodies so!!
The worst is that they still some dumbs who really think like that! That's a pity

For you Akiss

Love..






It is asking a perfect stranger to dance, randomly in the
dark, just because she happened to be sitting nearby looking bored when the DJ
played your favorite song and you said "that's my jam! Dance with
me!"


It is the surprise of the unexpected, the eye contact while
you are dancing for the first time to a slow song, the body leaning comfortable
against yours as she seems to have fallen asleep on your shoulder.


It is opening your door and being taken aback by a smile
that you swear you never saw before, although you just danced with her all
night a few days back.


It is asking her to move in with you after barely one week
together because when you were together you never wanted to part ways.


It is seeing the same face every day for two years and still
feel the same way you did that day you first open your door and saw that face
for the first time in daylight.


It is hugging her close from behind while she is in kitchen
cooking and depositing a soft kiss on her neck and saying "I love you
baby!"


It is holding her hand in the checkout line at the
supermarket, and then leaning in for a light kiss on the lips, and then you
both smile as if alone in the universe.


It is the touch that sends chills racing through your body,
the flirtatious conversations while you are at work, counting the minutes until
you get home.


It is the perfect kiss: the harmonious ballet of two lips
and tongues moving in right synchronization to a tune that they seems to know
by heart, as if they danced it in a previous lifetime.


It is being the last to fall asleep or waking up in the
middle of the night, looking at her sleeping and with a feint smile wondering
what she is dreaming about at that very moment.


It is looking at her eyes, her nose, her lips, her naked
body, thinking to yourself "God sure knows how to create them, how did I
ever get so lucky?" praying God to please stand guard over this
relationship, that God be the glue that binds you, that nothing may ever come
between you.


It is cuddling to her with abandon, limbs intertwined as you
try to cozy up even tighter, groaning like a baby and laughing because you feel
silly happy!


It is reaching out to gently caress her face, because you
feel that you have so much to say to her even though you have said it all, and
somehow "I love you" does not quite say it completely!

what a paradox!

Well maybe a little context might help cool emotions on that one ! And yes you are correct that there are people who absolutely think and live that way. Case in point my old supervisor, and this little poem was for and about him. He is the nicest guy, but a terrible bully! He bullies his way through friendships, relationships and work! I mean the guy was so hardass that everyone feared him in the office even the manager ! So one day I penned that for him and he loved it so much he emailed it to everyone in our distro list.. so there ya go

I am feeling a little poetic today, I wonder if it has to do with the fact that for the first a few weeks I turned on my tv! I flipped through a couple channels, the history channel, the Animal channel, I skipped over lying ass BBC before the news anchor even took a breath( no brain poison for breakfast, thank you ) . I must say it was a welcome relief from the doses a abuse I subject my brain to reading "off the grid" news and learning how life is lived outside of the Matrix.But yes, I did plug into it today and it did not feel half bad .. heck I even feel a little poetic...



The Ole Pimp Ly Ingass

Have I ever told you about the snake oil salesman Ole Pimp Ly Ingass?
So hardcore his lies, he battled truth and left it a carcass, yes! He badass
Dressed to impress and slick tongued, to his word all surrender their trust
Old school pimp I tell you! Bag full of tricks, fooled a whole world of us
He came with bright shiny things and fire water; oh did he cause a ruckus
Pale skinned he was, did not like our names so he named us… “niggers”!
Funny name we thought! Bound by the sanctity of guests we did not fuss
He laughed much, a toothy grin whenever he taught one to say “nigger”
Smiley face hardened, “nigger” became a whipping chain, oppressing us
Later, in his home, we would have to fight him to ride in front of his bus
What fools are we? That meekly we listen as lying lips teach us history?
Nay I say! Trust him and be fools! He teacheth not history, but his story..
Lying ass Mutha....

kihkihkhihkhihkhihki you guys are chronically béyé meiiinnn

I have a runny nose today, kind of odd because it is not even cold outside maybe a bit windy is all. I cannot even recall the last time I fell sick really! I mean, I do every once in a while fight a new battle in my never ending war with stomach ulcers but besides the occasional migraine after an especially hard of night "chilling" I have not fallen sick in a long time Al hamdulilah! Could it be the wind? I hope not. Allah knows that there are all kinds of nasty, nano tiny, particles in the Baghdad air that will f$#@ you and potentially your future kids for generations to come! What would such nasties be? and if so, what the hell am I doing here? Well let me tell about the little bugger first before I answer the second question... Have you ever heard of depleted uranium? Those whose money making prowess is best exploited in the fabrication of ever more lethal man killing devices, decided to use this metal to make the shells of almost all their man killings devices. Now the things is when that nasty bomb explodes it saturates the area with radioactive particles of DU which have a shelf life of hmmmm... 4billion years or so! On my way to the cafeteria to get breakfast or lunch, I walk past 2 or 3 buildings that had the shit bombed out of them and I go hmmmm... What the fuck am I doing here? Then I think about the UNESCO report of the epidemic of deformed babies in Baghdad and Fallujah, a direct consequences of the bombings that left those DNA altering nano thingies in the air.... so the fuck am I doing here you ask me?
I am running from a psycho woman !!!

Disillusionment can be unsettling, even traumatic. When one peeks behind the matrix' curtains and finds himself in front of a reality so monstrous, one
wishes they had remained drunk from the illusory elixir because life was much simpler that way. Alas once that cherry is popped,
there is no going back. It is like losing your virginity, no going back to sexual innocence. Mind you I read here that there exists a medical procedure to sew the hymen back, something I had never even heard of before, but to me that stinks of dishonesty! Then again the way the world is going dishonesty is fast becoming just another way to conduct business to one's advantage as personal gains and material hoarding seem to be what doctor capitalist ordered. I mean why bother with such inanities as "morality" hun?
My disillusionment has been my coming face to face with the veracity of that quote alternately attributed to Voltaire or Napoleon; "History is a bunch of lies agreed upon"...
Sad thing is, there is nothing new in the way the game is played, just the names of the players and the way the sleeping pills used to lull the commoners to sleep, yet still they swallow it happily, blissfully content in their slumber and oblivious to the predicament we are in!
And the beat goes on, as ever darkening clouds gather auguring a chaotic journey to 2012...

shorter sentences please!!!!
If men weren't so stubborn and wicked women won't go to sew they hymen back! let me tell you about one of my friend story! She was "dangerously" in love with a guy they date and she thought that the guy was feeling the same way by the way he was acting, he even promise to marry her this summer! Then he convince her to sleep with him and she did it because she was desperately in love with the guy!They planned to go back in their country to prepare the wedding etc but you know what ? the guy was already engaged with someone else! My friend have already told her family about the guy and the wedding and when she came back all the family was expecting the guy but no guy!!he just disappeared, when she tried to call him he didn't pick her calls!!and after one month spent there, he called to tell her he's not a good guy for her and he's going to marry another girl!! my friend is just destroyed and depressed she's from a country where loosing your virginity before wedding is just unthinkable!! She's thinking about doing this operation and if she did I will understand and support her cause I know what she lived and what she went through!!

forgive my mistakes i'm nulle in engliss

very sad story, isn't it?
maybe u r right men (or males) are stubborn and wicked, at least some of them, but i think we can also say that women are naive, at least some of them. It's just like when little red ridding hood meets the wolf, it never ends as in the tale!
So now what do think ur friend should have done, before the guy crossed her bounderies?

Bro Saaba, why 2012? is that the year of relief?

it's clear that sometimes we are naive!But men can be very talented when they manipulate us! I hope that it will never happen to me I think it won't because I love myself so much before loving someone else, I think I lost the ability to trust men, I'm too suspicious, and I don't get involved at 100% in a relationship, it's not a good think but I protect myself!
For my friend I really don't know what she should have done before, you know it's like this man ate her brain! She still in contact with him (don't know if iwe say it in english ) and he's telling her some bullshit about being his second wife and it seems like she believes him!! Sometimes I want to slape her , shake her tell her to wake up because this man is an asshole and don't deserve her!

akisss,you don't protect yourself
you destroy yourself!

Akiss I am sorry to hear about your friend and trust me when I tell you that I can relate. I have dealt with women the likes of which I had no idea existed, even in my relationship with male friends I have gone through more than most go through in two lifetimes and it still affects my relationships today but I am aware of my issues and keep them in check well (mostly ) . That said the lesson I have learnt from it is that if you allow a person to destroy who you are as a person, you would have lost twice. Once because of the pain felt initially, and twice because you risk never enjoying the beauty of a good relationship fully! Because you will be on your guard. The best thing you can do for your friend is to talk to her often without pushing her, but at the end of the day everyone must go through their mistakes so they may learn from them.

Akiss, my apologies in advance for this post as it might be longer than 3 sentences.

Jac you know a wild animal is most dangerous when wounded, so in this lets consider the West the wounded animal as it senses that it is losing it grip on the control it has enjoyed for centuries in world affairs. My choosing of is somewhat related to the hype about the mayan calendar and all that jazz, , not that I believe that the world will end for all though. The world ends for thousands of people everyday anyway, as soon as the angel of death visits. I do believe that globally events are happening at a faster pace and 2012 seems like a good time for all of it to come to a head. Furthermore, that is the year of presidential elections both in Senegal and in the US ! So nothing too specific although I believe (I really do) that the current saber rattling between the western bloc (USNATOIsrael) against Iran will go past the diplomatic phase to a full blown war at some point, soon as the aggressors feel that they have done a good enough job making the world hate Iran the way they did Saddam's Iraq. Military they are ready and Iran is completely encircled on land and on sea, and although the West wants to resolve the Irak/Afghanistan/Pakistan quagmire first before engaging into that hornet's nest, Israel can't wait to get it started, so it is only a matter of time! And when that first bomb drops all bets are off... When? why not 2012

Apparently Sow and I have something in common, I also do a lot
meditating in the shower, sometimes zoning out and letting the water run over my head for a
half hour before regaining situational awareness. In one of those meditation
sessions I pondered long and hard as to why some people, especially among the
educated circle, seem to have surrender reason, but I digress, out of respect
for the reality that everyone has a reason for feeling or thinking the way they
do. I will therefore simply lay out some of my observations here:


3 major diamonds trading capitals: Belgium, the Netherlands
and Israel,
how come? When they do not have diamonds mines in those countries?


3 major diamonds producing countries: Sierra Leone, DR of Congo, South Africa,
why have they all suffered genocides and apartheid?


It is obvious that anyone making a decent living wants only
to enjoy life and raise a family in peace, so I can infer that the bulk of the
fighters are poor, therefore easily manipulated, but by whom? Who provide the
weaponry and logistical support? Knowing how devastating fighting is for any
local economy, who provides the funding for such wars and to what end?


Until we are able shed the fear of tackling the complexity
of these situations and work to find real answer to such questions on our own,
as well as uncover the origin and the handlers of all these so called “rebel
groups”, ink will dry, saliva will be wasted and passions inflamed but as a
Continent we will never get out of the predicament we find ourselves in.

Just a thought I had…

Hi mr sabajoe,
let me appreciate ur note but i have one idea to add to yours.
how come diamonds trading are locate in europe better than Africa becose afican's leader are egoist,they are interested by themselves in orders their countries's interest.
All we sould do is turn back to our behaviour by choosing the best leader who believe to themselves and africa developpment.Let me send to seneweb.com to see young senegalese making a new technological invention.This a perfect exemple that confirm we can create,make,lead our counrty in the way of development.
If ever u see some mistakes don't forget to correct me cose it's been a long time i stay without practicing

where is the point for Senegalese youth to be good at practicing new technologies? the local government doesn't help them. once graduated, they can't find job opportunities in their own country. that's why they'd better go to rich countries like France or the US. We can't help brain drain!

What happened to gaining the knowledge so you can create opportunities?

sometimes your knowledges teach you to be patient but social situation private u to realize it cose u'ere unsteady.That's most of young people prefer to go abroad to look for better life.

VV hey man what's good? Base education has much to do with it, instilling that understanding of where we are from and what role we play in keeping our traditions and society relevant. Knowledge is best used when used to uplift society, unfortunately financial gain has become the driving force in almost all human endeavors. Regardless of our field of expertise, investing in the human dimension as a way to contribute to our society, to life, would be more rewarding and beneficial to man than the pursuit of selfish monetary gains, and that does not entail going West and contributing to the local brain drain. Unfortunately, money is the ruler of the day and people follow IT period! That is what we are taught to value when young, that is what we are bombarded with everywhere we look. Materialism and its Siamese twin Selfishness. So yes although opportunities may be scarce, the problem lies deeper than that, it is one of values, of priorities, of pride.

Back to more serious stuff now, I have not visited this page in a while because I have been a bit distracted lately but as I feel like we are in a count down to events of historical significance, I must remain focus to something I consider work. The work being to inform, bring alternate points of view to the official releases in the mass media. In keeping with that, I will post from now on quotes from the horse's mouth and let the chips fall where they may, let the reader exercise its own rational judgment. Consider it just information, although information that I believe has grave implications for mankind.


“We (Israel) possess several hundred atomic warheads and rockets …
most European capitals are targets of our air force … the Palestinians
should all be deported. Two years ago, only 7 or 8
per cent of Israelis were of the opinion that this would be the best
solution, two months ago, (January 2010), it was 33 percent and now
according to a Gallup poll, the figure is 44 percent”.
Martin Van Crevel Israeli, professor of military history at
Hebrew University at Jerusalem and top adviser to the Israeli Armed
Forces, March 2, 2010.

1010pm Baghdad time, in my room chilling, watching some reality tv show called "Real Atlanta Housewives"! Not on tv though, my tv hasn't been on in over a week now, and I don't plan on turning it on anytime soon. No, one of friends has purchased the 1st and 2nd seasons on dvd and kept talking about it, so I got curious and borrowed it. That said, I can't really say that I dislike it , it is kind of entertaining, especially after a hard day of work! It makes me laugh, twitch, frown, shake my head in disbelief, man it conjures up all kinds of feelings and emotions in me. At the same time I find it informative! Seeing how these people, whose glamourous lives most of the world idolizes and aims to emulate, live was not only an eye opener but also a confirmation of how I felt all along. Their lives are empty! Shallow! Very, very detached from the reality we live and identify with. These people talk about stuff like "Upscale" "power" "elite", easily blow $12000 a month on fake hair , and it makes perfect sense to them too! Good for them! I am not hating ok! Rather am just trying to get to this question; Why do we care so much about the lives of these people who could not care less about us? they would NEVER spend 5mn watching us portray our lives on television! we do believe the same things they believe in, do not live the same lives they live, nor do we share the same values, so... Why do we do it?

u watch them for entertainment dude! They don't watch us because reality isn't entertaining. I don't think "we do believe the same things they believe in", at least i can say u don't believe in what they believe, do u?

No I do not believe in what they do! Yes I know fully well that people watch them for entertainment, that is the reasons I watched them as well... I am of the opinion though that one person's entertainment is another's ambition. Meaning while you are able to rationalize what you watching, others more impressionable might be watching and being profoundly impacted by what they see. Take drugs for example, some do it their entire lives without any major disruption because they function well and are productive even under the influence. Yet for any one of such people, there a whole bunch for whom all it takes is one try their lives are destroyed forever. Add in the larger implications for family, neighborhood and society at large. How about alcohol? Most people who drink may do it in moderation and do fine, yet others get pissy drunk and cause fatal accidents, or become drunkards throwing their entire lives away in the process! So it could be for the general well being and societal even handedness that Islam proscribed it? So no one would feel left out? Ok am extrapolating here... But following that line of thought while the shows are entertaining, what kind of social values are they projecting on us? on our kids? Some do view it as entertainment but about those whose lifes may get negatively transformed by the viewing of it? Should we not therefore direct our entertainment viewing to shows that promote values compatible with our belief systems and morals? because at the end of the day it is all a matter a choice, there many other shows available for information as well as for entertainment, so I say it behooves us to choice wisely and, in so doing, guide the choices of the young to teach them discernment so they may in turn choose wisely in adulthood. This goes a long way in building a society more in tune with our stated creed. The alternative is that while we are laughing and having a good time, we may not grasp that we are laughing along with our own moral degradation and cultural colonization...
I am just saying.

"Should we not therefore direct our entertainment viewing to shows that promote values compatible with our belief systems and morals?"
Hell yeah! but nowadays in our country tv shows (most of them) ain't comptabile with our beliefs...and teenagers take all the "values" projected in these shows as granted, and the characters as role models.
Nogoye watches the show and sees herself like the main actress, this impacts in her new behavior ...same is for Alioune and so on.
Everyone is not able to rationalize like u said, on the contrary a lot think that what u previously called "empty lives", are their most desired lives!
I always wonder what's wrong with our way of education, maybe u can give a thought on how we could sharpen our system to produce better thinking people rather than entertainment-oriented ones...Man that could be a good one!

Jacare a écrit:u watch them for entertainment dude! They don't watch us because reality isn't entertaining. I don't think "we do believe the same things they believe in", at least i can say u don't believe in what they believe, do u?

That was meant to read "We do NOT believe in the same things..." my bad..

One of the things that (I think) we can do to provide kids with the tools that will enable them to think independently, therefore develop a stronger sense of identity and therefore better awareness of who they are as beings able to create, build, think and ultimately blaze their own trails independently, is to give them alternative versions of history and let them decide for themselves what to believe. By having a set curriculum that we do not deviate from, critical thinking is not encouraged, au contraire it is the status quo that is re-enforced and it becomes extremely difficult to pull away from the grip of "them". As we have it, we are trained to function within a system firmly controlled. Trouble is that once in that system it is difficult see or think outside the box, because outside of it all a sudden ain't no life! (see my signature!). The analysis goes much deeper than just this of course as the reality is far more complex, but at least that be a good start to shed certain complexes we carry from early schooling on, that paralyze our ability to aim for self determination because we then become so heavily dependent on the "shitstem"... I know I may be a bit obscure, especially with my mentions of alternative history but if need be I will get more detailed and in depth with examples. Here am just trying to keep it short but clear enough to understand.

OMG...

what do you mean omg homey? .. state yo biz..

You don't know what "OMG " means ?

nah homz I know what that means, what i am wondering is the reason for it! why the omg patna?

I'm just surprised, once again by your very long posts, you and the others..

Ahhh ok ! Dude just try to read and tell us what you think!

Maybe one day, when i'd get enough time...

Til that day then.. In the meantime today is another one poised to make it down the bottomless dust bin of time, what kind of day is it going to be? what kind of news will it bring? will it meet expectations and bring along surprises? Personally I like surprises, routine makes me bored! which is a little odd considering that my days here are like carbon copies of the same. But yes I like change, challenge, push buttons, have my buttons pushed... That is what drives me and at the same time the reason why I am so hard to pin down! I wouldn't have it any other way, how about you?

I hate reality Tv Show... They take us as dudes !